level 1. Vader was also defeated from the start. https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5mctii/the_canon_darth_vader_respect_thread/, https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5e3moq/the_ultimate_canon_anakin_skywalker_respect_thread/. He easily defeats (Well, more like plays with) two relatively untrained jedi. A New Hope brought fans the first lightsaber duel of the Star Wars universe when Darth Vader and his former master Obi-Wan Kenobi went head-to-head. Ewan McGregor was last seen playing Obi-Wan in Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith which saw Anakin Skywalker lose the battle, get his limbs lightsabered off, with The Emperor saving Anakin and fixing him through use of a mechanical suit, which sees Anakin become Darth Vader.. Based on the films, the basic difference I see is wisdom v.s strength. However, a new piece of fan art envisions what would have happened if Anakin had never become Darth Vader. Then he survives getting two walkers dropped on him and forces them both up with one hand. Despite always calling his former pupil "Anakin," Obi-Wan Kenobi calls him "Darth" during their final duel. Posted in Disney, Movies, Star Wars | Tagged Anakin Skywalker, darth vader, star wars, star wars: the last jedi, yoda Post navigation. It is not clear what the butterflies mean or represent, but many fans assumed that the butterflies were the light side of the Force reaching out to Anakin in Issue #8. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I struggled to think of an answer to this since as far as I am aware, Anakin was more powerful, but Vader knew more Dark Side abilities and was enhanced in other aspects due to his suit. Darth Vader vs. Anakin. Ok everyone and their mother knows who wins in a vs fight. I don't find Vader's saber feats ( defeating Karbin and battling Ahsoka, Ben, and Luke) to be more impressive than Anakin's demonstrated superiority to Ventress and Dooku or quotes marking him as a comparable combatant to Yoda and Sidious as of ROTS. Just wondering who was more powerful. General Grievous fought nicely despite being more machine than Vader. Vader is actually more powerful and more skilled. I think Vader was more powerful simply because he was now Sith. Anakin did. Darth Vader and Ahsoka Tano fought once, with the results being inconclusive. This thread is archived. Archived. To craft his weapon, Vader has to defeat a Jedi in battle, take his lightsaber and torture the Kyber crystal inside with his pain and anger, a process which makes the crystal bleed and "sing a hymn of darkness," according … Fully immersed in the dark side. Darth Vader turns to see Padmé Amidala, back from the dead. Darth Vader is much stronger in the Force than what he was as Anakin. People shit on the Prequels, but I don't think I've ever seen anybody say they had inferior fight choreography, and that's for a good reason. Darth Vader, a fictional character from the Star Wars universe and one of the most infamous villains of all time, has been described by both in-universe characters and real life fans as one of the most ruthless Sith Lords the galaxy has ever seen. While Luke’s plea to the Anakin within Vader eventually led him to reject his darkness and return to the light, this psychological split between the two is what so … 30+ years using the force by that point. share. It's just advances in film. It's likely the Disney Plus series takes place following Episode III and prior to Episode IV - A New Hope, and if the Darth … Darth Vader slashes diagonally downwards before stabbing Sephiroth in the chest. Vader’s duel in ESB sees him face off against his son, Luke Skywalker, in the cloud city of Bespin. R2 - Canon Anakin is a shitter because of no showings, whereas canon Vader is one of the strongest canon characters, R3 - Anakin has the speed advantage, Vader is better in terms of strength and force powers. I think Anakin takes this 6.5/10. Assuming the delineation between Anakin and Vader is the end of the duel on Mustafar, Anakin is one of the best lightsaber duelists in the galaxy, with incredible raw force-strength. save hide report. However, in this fight, only canon versions are valid. But I agree Vader wins. Round 3: I'm not familiar enough with legends, sorry :(. Assuming the delineation between Anakin and Vader is the end of the duel on Mustafar, Anakin is one of the best lightsaber duelists in the galaxy, with incredible raw force-strength. Posted on Reddit by user Onehealthgaming, the photo features an older version of Anakin and his wife Padme alongside their children Luke and Leia. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Anakin gave in the Sidious and became Vader. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Not gonna list the feats but he has more speed and strength than in the original trilogy. It's hypothetical. Who is the better character? Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. I figured as much considering how cocky Vader was when he fought Obi Wan again, but I never really had any reasoning behind that. 11 comments. Via Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith #8 However, during The Mandalorian, Grogu sees and interacts with what looks like real-life butterflies. R1 - Film Anakin beats film Vader because prequel trilogy was much more better in terms of choreography and fights. Hayden Christensen is returning as Darth Vader for the upcoming Obi-Wan Kenobi series on Disney Plus. He's nearly as fast, just as agile, and just as strong if not stronger physically as well due to his mechanical limbs. Vader wins because physicality (his body) doesn't matter when you're the more powerful Force user. Here are five ways that Anakin was an intriguing protagonist, and five reasons … Looks more cool, more badass and intelligent. Vader was probably physically stronger, but with telekinesis who cares? Hayden Christensen returns as Darth Vader, joining Ewan McGregor in OBI-WAN KENOBI. Then, the prequels told the story of how wayward Jedi Padawan Anakin Skywalker was corrupted by the Sith and became Darth Vader. Round 2: Now I can use Vader's Star Wars: Rebels feats, which give him a better chance against Anakin. 20 seconds. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Anakin wasn't nearly as much machine as Vader. He has the strength to throw Kanan across the plaza with one arm, and can use the force to push Ezra's lightsaber towards his own neck, a unique force move. He also had a more consistent and compelling character arc from 4-6 than Anakin did in 1-3. You are indeed where you belong. Ultimately, I think Vader would win. Darth Vader: VS. Anakin Skywalker: I know versions of this have been done before, but most of the ones I found involved Legends feats. Could the apprentice beat the master in combat? 7. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Also, this is based off Dark Anakin in episode 3, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Check out the Sith Code - they actually worship power. Maul went toe to toe with Qui-Gon AND Obi-wan. Then Lord Darth Vader slashes at the arms and then the torso, finally he slashed the head and kicks the head away. In the entire SW universe, the Sith are always more than the Jedi in terms of raw power. RELATED: Star Wars: The Dark Secrets Behind Darth Maul's Robot Legs, Revealed This Vader would have existed right after the Battle on Mustafar, so it would have been a redeemed Anakin Skywalker. Darth Vader vs. Anakin. With the slew of abilities he learned from Palpatine, at range Vader clinches it, but in close combat Vader is at an disadvantage, in Film Canon far more than New Canon. Padmé: Anakin? The whole "ops all yo fleshy bits gone" kinda limited him in that regard. Vader comes out on top as far more impressive than he was as Anakin: Vader's: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5mctii/the_canon_darth_vader_respect_thread/, Anakin's: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5e3moq/the_ultimate_canon_anakin_skywalker_respect_thread/. His first step is to obtain a crimson lightsaber, the signature weapon of the Sith. Darth Malgus, Darth Revan and Darth Nihilus could take Sidious in a toe to toe battle. Share Share Tweet Email. Anakin Skywalker is one of the main protagonists from the Star Wars franchise as the main protagonist of the Star Wars prequel trilogy and Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series. Anakin Skywalker has become Darth Vader and Obi-Wan is still trying to recover from his greatest defeat. Twitch Reveals Prime Gaming Free Titles For December 2020. If we're discussing canon versions of the characters Vader is possibly more powerful than his younger counterpart, but because Vader seems to only utilize the force in the most rudimentary way during combat ( pushes and simple tk), I don't see a slim advantage in power affecting the outcome of the battle. I'm pretty sure OP is aware that Anakin and Vader are the same being, but their character is different, as well as how powerful they are. Vader was probably more powerful in terms of being one with the force, but I imagine Anakin had an advantage by virtue of his body not being mostly machine. He was better with the force as Vader, age, wisdom, experience kinda thing. Realistically, Anakin isn't going to win this. However, Vader is much more conservative fighter, and a much better trained Force user. So here's a twist. For those who would like to (And I'd like you to), please provide stats, evidence and examples. RELATED: Star Wars: Anakin's 5 Best Moments In The Prequels (& Vader's 5 Best Moments In The Original Trilogy) Luke was a cockeyed optimist, while Anakin was a dictator’s puppet. Anakin in the prequels and The Clone Wars is really fucking fast, and though Vader can take down Ahsoka, she was never as good as Anakin. In both Canon and Legends, Anakin is son of Shmi … Mind over matter. David Charles Prowse MBE (1 July 1935 – 28 November 2020) was an English bodybuilder, weightlifter and character actor in British film and television. With the slew of abilities he learned from Palpatine, at range Vader clinches it, but in close combat Vader is at an disadvantage, in Film Canon … He lost a bit of agility after his dismemberment, but he adapted and became superior to Anakin by a pretty decent margin. The fight ends in a manner that, … this is anakin vs Maul. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Context: Theories for years suggested Anakin had been created by the Force and Palpatine was the one to do it. I argue anyone of thier own will is stronger than a puppet. Hes just had way more time to figure things out. Qui-gon was able to fight WINDU as an equal and Obi-Wan (despite being only a padawn at the time) was a top rate jedi. Round 1: I can't see how this doesn't go for Anakin, just because the fights in the prequels were so much faster than the fights in the original trilogy. Comment. Maby Anakin could pull off the first round but that's still iffy. Vader is more powerful than Anakin, but not as powerful as a hypothetical Vader that didn't take the lava bath. He physically portrayed Darth Vader in the original Star Wars trilogy and a manservant in Stanley Kubrick's 1971 film A Clockwork Orange.In 2015, he starred in 2 documentaries concerning his Darth Vader role, one entitled The Force's Mouth which included … It doesn't matter. In “Star Wars: The Phantom Menace,” we learned that Anakin Skywalker did not have a true father. Round 3: At his most powerful during his time as Anakin and as Vader as shown in Legends. I wanna know how/why Anakin beats Vader or vice versa. So I think Anakin wins. The Disney Plus Star Wars live-action series for Obi Wan is set 10 years after Revenge of the Sith and will return Christensen to his role as Anakin Skywalker. 0. After the events of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, Darth Vader is thrust into his Sith training. By Anthony Gramuglia Dec 28, 2019. This is Anakin/Vader’s only true victory in the six films he’s featured in, and it still took longer than expected, against an adversary who had barely touched on his education and potential with the force. https://twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/833437960934662145. And there is the power of the force, which corrrct me if I am wrong, but I believe he had greater force power as Vader. This means more agility, less weight, and stronger connection to the force. Vader was probably more powerful in terms of being one with the force, but I imagine Anakin had an advantage by virtue of his body not being mostly machine. General Discussion. However, Vader is much more conservative fighter, and a much better trained Force user. Anakin was unwise and became Darth Vader. One of the most dark and iconic scenes in Star Wars The Revenge of the Sith, when Anakin Skywalker loses to Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafar and catches on fire. It seems likely that Hayden Christensen will indeed suit up as Darth Vader, but we'll still get to see his face when he takes his mask off, such as in the medidation chamber. Anakin wins. The last we see of Anakin was in Revenge of the Sith when Obi-Wan got the "high ground" and literally cut down Anakin who was found and saved by the Emperor only to get transformed into Darth Vader. Vader is more powerful. The announcement was made by Kathleen Kennedy at today's Disney Investor Day . 81% Upvoted. This is what I was looking for. The Original Series begins 10 years after the dramatic events of Revenge of the Sith, and is coming to #DisneyPlus . Posted by 2 years ago. As a Sith Lord, Anakin was known as Darth Vader, who served as the secondary antagonist of the original Star Wars trilogy and one of the main antagonists of Star Wars Rebels. This post really helps to put it in perspective. The actor who played Anakin Skywalker will reunite with Ewan McGregor. At least, that's how I see it. Just wondering who was more powerful. Darth Vader: all too easy. Overall Vader has a better chance here, but I don't think he takes it. And it all begins from the prequel trilogy.. Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader: Could Anakin Skywalker's Padawan Defeat Him? I'd say Vader dumps on Anakin in this regard. Darth Vader's true identity was a closely guarded secret, and only a handful of people knew he was really Anakin Skywalker.Jedi Master Anakin Skywalker was a celebrated hero of the Clone Wars, and the galaxy believed he was killed during Order 66, along with the rest of the Jedi.Darth Vader was seen as a mysterious and enigmatic force, a powerful being who suddenly burst onto the scene as the Emperor's … Vader is more powerful than pre-Mustafar Anakin, but Anakin had the potential to become far more powerful than Vader was. Cookies help us deliver our Services. It's a perfectly valid thing to wonder about, your comparison isn't the same with the shoes, as your feet don't change. But that also meant he had much, much greater physical strength. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Darth Vader: Padmé? By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Star Wars Rebels pitted Darth Vader against his former apprentice, Ahsoka Tano. General Discussion. Easily Vader. He had less raw force to work with tho. His mother, Shimi Skywalker (Pernilla August), told Qui-Gon Jinn (Liam Neeson) that she gave birth without a father. The Star Wars universe is often fraught with tragedy, especially in the case of Anakin Skywalker. You can see everything both Anakin and Vader have done in the two threads below to compare their abilities. Pretty much every argument pro-Anakin is based on the OT being made 20+ years before the Prequels, and so Anakin 'looks' better based on the eye test. Close. He also fights Ahsoka his old apprentice, who left the Jedi Order during the Clone Wars before she became a full knight, though she was good enough to be one when she left. He also isn't nearly as impulsive as Anakin was. Vader has enough raw strength and has shown that he can keep up with fast opponents, so he's not totally out of the fight. 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